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Ray, I never said I could do it with open sites, with the exception of my Lott I do not own a bolt gun with open sites. Mickey had made the qualification of scoping the double due to the range so I assumed the same would apply for the bolt and this is what I was speaking of. I did not clarify my comment when I spoke of bolts though I was grouping smaller caliber percision rifles in the mix as I was speaking in general trems. If you would like to offer that bet against one of my bolt guns with a scope I will take it, simply name the time three shots all touching a thousand a group with a .30cal rifle. I would think you would know better then this though as I am no exceptional shot by any means and know many people who can do this with enough frequency they would come out on a offer such as yours. But as I said if the offer stands for a scoped rifle I am in. James F. Nixon III |