When I responded to this thread, it wasn't to stir up ill feelings between anybody. I simply reported what I found, as I have been prevented from making several costly mistakes based upon what I've learned from participants here. In this case, I was actually able to visually inspect the guns and saw these very obvious problems as I wrote about in the earlier thread. Since Cabela's has no compunctions against selling these guns to some poor slob who doesn't know the details, I was just trying to return favors others have done for me. Yes, we can get refunds, etc. etc, but the grief isn't worth it if it can be avoided.