450_366
(.400 member)
23/05/08 08:14 AM
Re: Lead sled and stocks

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The reason the LS is not good for use with a side by side double rifle is the rifle is not allowed to recoil UP, and to the SIDE, because the butt is jammed down into the fixture being held bottom, and both sides!

You can rest the rifle on a sand bag up front, but your hand needs to be between the rifle, and the sand bag, and gripping the for barrels. Standing or sitting at a bench is OK, but the rifle should be held in the hands, and touching only the face, and shoulder, however the back of the forehand, and the elbows can be rested on the bench. It makes no difference if the bench is a standing, or sitting, as long as the rifle doesn't touch anything other that the shooters hands, face, and shoulder! I fail to see what is so hard to understand about that!





Your thoughts on constricting barrel movement when it’s being fired certainly make sense, but knowing that the Lead Sled doesn’t do that, I’m thinking the condemnation might be a bit overblown.




I never said the LS restricts the side recoil of the barrels, but if the hand is not holding the barrels, as if shooting off hand, the the side, and up recoil is exagerated! As long as you hold the foreend, the thing that is a problem with the side recoil is that it causes torque on the butt stock because of the sides of the LS's butt fixture restricts the side recoil enough to strain the weakest part of the butt stock, the wrist. I have one of the lead sleds, and with a bolt rifle it works fine, because the rifle only recoil up and back. Addtionally, if you shoot a heavy recoiling S/S double rifle off sticks, without holding the fore-end it will not regulate properly either! I have zero problem with the lead sled with an O/U double rifle, or any bolt/single shot rifle. However it is not designed to be used with a s/s double,especially for the regulating process, nor is any other mechanical rest, unless the rifle is held as if being shot off hand! You, or anyone else may do as it pleases you, the rifles used in that case are yours! My S/S doubles will not though!

People seem to think they can bypass the tried, and true method of regulation of a barrel set, by the use of some fixture, or jig, and it will not work, for anything other than getting a starting point, at close range. For the building of a barrel of sets for double rifles ,every short-cut, ever thought up, has been tried, and none will negate the old method. This is what 450_366 is attempting to do, and I say, lead sled, or jig, it will not work!




Hey, I only want to learn by my own mistakes.
And i never said that the rifle should rest on anything other than my hand and shoulder, i wasnt refering to the LS. Only that i would add weight to my shoulder, or actually between my shoulder and but. And that i cant see how it wasnt suppose to work.



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