| DUGABOY1 |
| (.400 member) |
| 23/05/08 04:14 AM |
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Re: Lead sled and stocks
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While I appreciate all of the analogy of why a Lead Sled should be such a “no no” for double rifles, my experience just hasn't matched up with that. Now I don't load my Sled down in an effort to eliminate my 470's recoil, but when it comes to an attempt to determine a load that will really tighten up a shooting group, I think reduced recoil can be very helpful.
I have had no problems with the perils of cracked stocks, poor regulation, or a differential in shooting precision when stepping from the Sled to sticks. The gun shoots fine and consistently as far as I can tell, and the process of getting it to that point is much more pleasurable.
Yeas reducing recoil cant be a bad thing, and nowone can tell me that it will affect the regulation.
If it could, a rifle built and fired by me at 75kg couldnt be fired accuratly from my friends shoulder as he is at 125kg. So if i add the deadweight of his upperbody to mine preferably at my right shoulder the recoil would be lesser, wouldnt it? Now how would i do that, he would probably miss his shoulder so lead foil wrapped around mine perhaps or even better a hotdog made of a innertube filled with shotgun pellets. And to stick it to by shoulder i would build a rest that allows me to place it infront of my shoulder and the stock against it. Also my left hand would rest on the it together with my elbows, and the whole thing should allow me to shoot standing up. And prefeably it could collapse into the boot of a car not beeing to heavy to carry. Damn, now i need to build a rest to see if i works.
450_366 It isn't the weight that the rifle pushes against that causes the rifle to not shoot to it's regulation! It is the fact that the rifle is not allowed to recoil in it's normal dirrections for each barrel! By this I mean the rifle held in the hands, and placed against the shoulder, and fired is free to recoil in the dirrections it does when regulated by a human!
Contact with hard surfaces, causes the natural arch of the recoiling rifle to change, thous changing the POI on the target. The forestock resting dirrectly on the sand bag and fired will not give the same result as the forestock being held by the shooter's hand. The reason the LS is not good for use with a side by side double rifle is the rifle is not allowed to recoil UP, and to the SIDE, because the butt is jammed down into the fixture being held bottom, and both sides! This not only destroys the ability of the rifle to follow it's normal path of recoil, but places a strain on the wrist of the two piece stock.
You can rest the rifle on a sand bag up front, but your hand needs to be between the rifle, and the sand bag, and gripping the for barrels. Standing or sitting at a bench is OK, but the rifle should be held in the hands, and touching only the face, and shoulder, however the back of the forehand, and the elbows can be rested on the bench. It makes no difference if the bench is a standing, or sitting, as long as the rifle doesn't touch anything other that the shooters hands, face, and shoulder! The reason the factories use standing benches for the regulation is to reduce felt recoil for the shooter, who somtimes shoot 100 rounds per day with several different heavy recoiling rifles. However, you will never see a factory regulator resting a side by side double rifle dirrectly on a sand bag. I fail to see what is so hard to understand about that!
