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thanks all it does seem to like the 245 grains a lot, so i have to find some bullets in that weight class. the scope is an old german steel tubed 2,5 x 24 and it looks alright on it. if the roedeer will work with me, then you will be the first to see it, just have to wait till friday. bramble yes work him hard and dont stop untill he gets it right. reds, fallow, roe, CWD, muntjack it will all work, if he gets it right. best regards peter |