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Zimhunter Not yelling at all..just merely stating what I do..have had all the yelling for one week I care too.. I totally agree with you and your methods and perhaps I should have been more thorough in my explanation..I do exactely what you do with the exception I also use the chrono-- once I have chronographed the load and use the tables --I adjust accordingly and then shoot at those distances to make sure it is accurate--and yes,,there are many times where additional adjustment is needed --however it usually gets me pretty close on the first try or two.. so I can adjust from there... Take Care Ripp |