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Most Greener Empires seem to be loose - including mine... in a lot of cases the Bolt does not actually engage anything..... what the f does it do - not much.

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500Nitro:
I can't let that one go by! The Greener 'Empire' is not my favourite shotgun action by any means, but I do have 3 of them. One is a .577 express, as you know.

If your gun is loose, then of course the cross-bolt will not be locking-up tightly. A good many Empire Greeners have worked bloody hard over the decades, and many have needed re-jointing. If they have been tightened by repairing the hinge-pin and hook, without repairing the rib-extension and cross-bolt (which are, admittedly, a little more difficult), then the hinge-pin will not be earning its keep there either.

Two of my Empires are still tight, and the cross-bolts do contribute as a strong and fool-proof third bite. The third is on the verge of shooting loose, and will be tightened correctly (including cross-bolt) when this becomes necessary (if it doesn't become a 12-bore Paradox first!).

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other cross bolt systems which seem to be more tapered seem to work better IMHO

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