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Steve, I recall that Holland's furnace setup was short. You're explanation of the furnace/flame sounds reasonable to me. It'll give me reason to watch the dvd again. I'll take a look at the VC site but I'm grappling with English so I'll just have to mute the commentary. Keeping the flame off the solder/braze sounds like it has very real benefits as per what Alex and Ron etc say so it looks like "the go". Thanks for your observations. Peter |