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Mehukamdar, I think you must have misunderstood me. I was not suggesting a profit making motive in any fashion and certainly not for me. I am not in this business. I was offering to be involved as a volunteer or not at all and would not accept any other way. What I am saying is that to do a first rate job on creating an open literature DR for the members to use will cost several thousand dollars. Someone must pay that to the company doing the scan, the modelers that take the scan and create code, the machinist to actually set the tooling and create the prototype. This is just actual costs that must be borne by someone or a group of people. If we have a benefactor out there willing to fund this, that is great but if not, it will take a group of members to put up the funds. Earlier in the thread I suggested the following: "A group of members commit to the project under the terms and conditions above but donate the intellectual property i.e. computer code to the NitroExpress forum. Any member could then "buy-in" i.e. pay what would amout to a field of use for the code and the money would go to the forum for administration and enhancement. The orginal members would already have the code for their unlimited use. This would give the forum a revenue stream and make an already great site even better. This would be a very valuable piece of intellectual property if done on a popular action." This is not a profit mode; in fact is is distinctly non-profit. Any funds generated would be reinvested in the Forum. I simply threw this out at the end of a long post. It was certainly not a well thoughtout proposal by any means and wasn't meant to be one. It was simply said to create some inventive thoughts for others to suggest how how it could be done. The steps I outlined though are from experience. There are no acceptable shortcuts that would result in a safe and acceptable design offered to the open membership. A superficial scan offered would be irresponsible. I am sorry if I confused you or anyone on previous posts. This thread has morfed considerably from the start. Perhaps you should suggest a title along with value proposition and start a new thread along the lines you believe to be appropriate. This would invite more members to suggest a process toward an open literature DR if that is the desire. My best-------------Bill |