I am working up a load now it does not like the Lyman loads (30g WSI and a AA wad in a WAA shell fold crimp), It is putting both slugs about 3 inches apart at 25 yards so I will try increasing the powder and see with the Lyman. I am also going to try the DGL sabot from Ballistic Products its a 7/8 oz slug. The barrel lenght allows the gun to balance really well. If anyone has any pet loads they think might work I am open to direction. I have some Clays and Red Dot, try some loads with these also.