Okay, I have a little time right now so I thought I would attempt to post some of the pics of my two potential donor guns---and invite comments from all. If you have anything to say, please do so. I am not easily offended and welcome all comments....on the pictures, the plans, or the sensibilities of pursuing this effort.

First is gun #1...the Simson Suhl gun:

Note here the top lever is slightly left of center when action is closed....I think this is an indication of bad things to come. I didn't realize it when I first looked at this piece, but after looking a little closer, things started to show up!! (Although I did NOT completely disassemble the action...It wasn't necessary for this evaluation!!)

The sharp eyes among you will properly observe that this is a 16 bore gun.....Yep, another error on my part! Of course I knew it was a 16 when I purchased it (some 20 years ago..) but it is amazing what time will do to one's memory!!

So, here is where we are: Simson Suhl gun; 16 bore (so...not appropriate for a .470 or .500 build); action slightly loose and off face (there is noticeable movement when locked up with the forearm removed---I was able to close the action with a piece of .003 brass shim stock in the standing breech); the gun has obviously been shot and handled a lot before I got it...checkering is worn almost smooth.-------On the positive side, the gun is not in terrible shape appearance wise; the wood is apparently all original and sound...no cracks or bad dings or repairs; no visible metal repair; 100% functional; all matching serial numbers.

So, what is the future hold for this gun?? Should I spend the time to bring it back on face then use it as a donor for a smaller build (like a 45-70 or..??); keep it as a 16 bore shotgun after tightening it up; or get rid of it??? Those are the only options I see right now. I am open to any suggestions----Please hold forth. All ideas welcomed!!!

Next, for your viewing pleasure will be the AYA gun---stay tuned!!

Howard