I took off the factory supplied recoil pad it was about 5/8 inch thick . Length without any pad is 14 5/8 inches to the front trigger . It actually feels pretty good at 14 5/8 as I have long arms . It felt only very slightly long with 5/8 pad but I tried a one inch slip-on and it felt really long . I think I want to keep lop at 14 5/8 , what kind of pads should I be looking at ?