WOW! I really appreciate all that info. I kinda think I'm gonna shoot for the JDJ. I will have to base my final decision on what type os shotgun I am able to purchase. I am really hoping to find a european 12 ga. s x s of some sort. I know the final product might be a little heavy, but I just don't know if a 16 or 20 could take the pounding od the JDJ? Thoughts???