They may not be the best looking shotgun for converting but they are very strong and make good donor gun in spite of their looks. They kind of grow on you after awhile. I have used four of them to date for rifles. They are already built on a monoblock system so that makes it easier to convert them. Some of the earlier ones and some made for sale in Europe , have an articulated front trigger. That is a nice feature to have on a rifle. The euro ones also come with sling swivels, sometimes. They also have a different engraving pattern that I like much better. Bob H.