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Quote: In my context I mean a full on smokeless load of 4000FPE+ with a modern jacketed bullet. The 45-120 Sharps were originally black-powder loads (as are most of the old British rounds), therefore I differentiate between the old load and my loads. I pretty much match the 450NE loads. 450 #2 is a 3.5" case, and produces 13 tons breech pressure per GW data. The 45-120 is a 3.25" less volume than the 450#2 and is best guess around 16 tons at equal full nitro load. I keep my loads around 10 to 11 tons using, again, GW data/load for the 450NE for that pressure loading. Its probably a little more than that, but the velocities are coming out exactly as he publishes them. i.e. 450NE, 80 grains RL 15 with a 480 Woodleigh equals 2050FPS. My loads, with the same amount of powder and bullet match this exactly per my chrono. Who makes the brass? Cabellas? I have some old Bell brass which splits or drops the primer after about 5 shots. 45-120 brass is easy to get and fairly cheap...577NE on the other hand is $5.00 a pop! Blain |