buckstix
(.400 member)
04/01/16 11:14 PM
WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern made

or

other original "Vintage" bolt action rifle in BIG caliber.


bouldersmith
(.375 member)
05/01/16 12:58 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

just sold mine......

buckstix
(.400 member)
05/01/16 05:06 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

So ... why would I want to know that?

gryphon
(.450 member)
05/01/16 06:19 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Quote:

So ... why would I want to know that?




Because the new buyer might be scared of the recoil now and want to sell it?


Pretorius
(.224 member)
05/01/16 08:06 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

I know of a very nice 425WR by WR, in South Africa, if you can handle the paperwork. It was 30,000 rand iirc. Favorable exchange at the mo.
Send a pm if you're interested and I'll give you an email and a name


buckstix
(.400 member)
05/01/16 11:19 PM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Hello Pretorius54bn,

thanks for the reply ...

I'm a little to old to wait that long ....


szihn
(.400 member)
06/01/16 01:13 PM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

What is WTD?

Rockdoc
(.400 member)
06/01/16 03:34 PM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Quote:

What is WTD?



Wanted in modern speak!


Gundog01
(.333 member)
07/01/16 02:47 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

There's a nice Cogswell and harrision 404 on guns international.

buckstix
(.400 member)
07/01/16 11:12 PM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Hello Gundog01,

Thanks for the reply.

I've seen that one, but I'm not a big fan of the Enfield action in that caliber. I've got 5 Custom Enfields in various Big Bore caibers, but they are a bit "clunky" and I'd like a 404 in a Mauser or similar variation with a "sleek" look.

btw - WTD = WANTED


Gundog01
(.333 member)
08/01/16 12:56 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Quote:

Hello Gundog01,

Thanks for the reply.

I've seen that one, but I'm not a big fan of the Enfield action in that caliber. I've got 5 Custom Enfields in various Big Bore caibers, but they are a bit "clunky" and I'd like a 404 in a Mauser or similar variation with a "sleek" look.

btw - WTD = WANTED




That is a clunky looking gun, good point. I'll keep my eyes peeled.


buckstix
(.400 member)
15/01/16 12:21 PM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Hello Gundog01

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not exactly sure how to describe what I want, beyond Vintage 404 Jeffery. But when the right one comes along, I'll know it when I see it.


Huvius
(.416 member)
16/01/16 12:36 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Here is a nice one on a Magnum length square bridge.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100649961


buckstix
(.400 member)
16/01/16 02:30 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Hello Huvius,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, its nice all right. I saw it when it was listed.

But its on the high $$ side, and out of Country. The additional import cost, shipping costs, tarrifs, and red-tape involved - well, that's too much for me. I'm getting too old for those unknowns.


xausa
(.400 member)
16/01/16 02:52 AM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Helmut,

This is not exactly what you had in mind, but Oh, my! http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5766654

It is a .404 built on a ZG47 action, which many, including me, think is the highest development of the Mauser design. Moreover, the only real fault of the action, the backwards safety, has been corrected. The German description may be beyond your language capability, but Google may be able to give you a rough translation. Otherwise, I can clear up any questions you have.


buckstix
(.400 member)
16/01/16 12:24 PM
Re: WTD - Vintage 404 Jeffery bolt action rifle - not modern

Hello xausa,

Thanks for the reply.

I'd be a buyer for this one "if" it were in this country. I'm afraid the time and money to get it here would be more that I would want. It sure has the lines and the condition that apeal to me.

Any suggestions on how to get it here?


buckstix
(.400 member)
21/01/16 11:40 PM
SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle

I've located a Vintage Cogswell & Harrison in 404 Jeffery and moved the information over to "Big Bore Rifles" forum.




Ash
(.400 member)
22/01/16 04:03 PM
Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle

Wouldnt that be an Enfield action?

buckstix
(.400 member)
22/01/16 07:35 PM
Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle

Hello Ash,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, a P-17 Military Enfield that Cogswell & Harrison transformed into a Commercial Sporter.


xausa
(.400 member)
22/01/16 11:05 PM
Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle

First M1917 I've ever seen with a thumb cut. (There's no such thing as a P-17 Enfield.) I wonder what else C&H did to it. Cocking on opening? Custom trigger? Looks like custom bottom metal.

buckstix
(.400 member)
23/01/16 12:15 AM
Re: SEARCH IS OVER - I've found a Vintage 404 Jeffery Rifle

Hello xausa.

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, M1917. Its still "cock on close" and the bottom metal is custom and made of aluminum.

I've had a few people tell me that "cock on close" was preferred by many Dangerous Game Hunters because working the bolt while the rifle was shouldered, required less muscle force than trying to "lift" the bolt from that position. Especially with rifles like the M1917 because of the heavy firing pin springs and the forge required to open the action. They say that lifting the bolt against the cocking force with the arm outstretched was awkward and slower that the "easy" lift and ejection of the spent cartridge, and then the natural "push" feed and "cock" as the rifle was aimed for a follow-up shot.

Since I have M1917s with both systems, I'll have to test that someday to see what I think.

I've got lots of posts out looking for someone that might have info on the production date based on the serial number 634xx. I've also contacted Cogswell & Harrison direct, but no response yet. From forum members I've heard everthing from 1920 - 1960, but nothing definite.



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