Remington plastic hulls cut to 2 7/8" loaded with 19gr Red Dot an sp 10 wad 1 oz shot and a roll crimp is a nice easy shooting load for the old 10ga guns. Use it in several of my Damascus barrel guns. Thanks to the guys on the PGCA forum. A 6pt crimp also works. If you find a source for 10ga paper hulls I would love to know. By the way I am in Ga what part of Al are you from.