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Don't shoot jacketed bullets on top of lead fouling if you care about your barrel. Get the fouling out clean down to bare steel first.

A good way to get lead out is to use patches made from a copper pot scrubber. Here in the U.S. they call it a "Chore Boy". Don't know where they come up with the "Boy" part!! You can "disassemble" the Chore Boy pad and cut strips to wrap around a patch. This will quickly and harmlessly remove all lead fouling if used with good solvent or penetrating oil.

Another solution is to use some steel wool. Yes steel wool. It is much softer than barrel steel and won't hurt a thing. You can unroll it from a pad and cut into strips or patches, then drape them over a patch on a jag. Use good solvent or penetrating oil. I have used 0000 grade most often, but with heavy fouling you may want to use a coarser grade, which I have done also.

Using either method, be sure to get all particles of copper or steel our of the barrel and chamber afterward.

Curl

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I know one gunsmith and one very good competition shooter that both use lead bullets to clean copper fouling and jacketed bullets to clean lead fouling.

I questioned it as well but they have done it for years.