Thanks Mick ,

Nice , could have gone over 100DS then if not broomed & heavy to , Buff/game are all ways hard from pic's & Ive been shooting Buff since I was 17 , LoL !

Yes I suppose I need 2 set ups , 1 for Deer & light game & another for the Big guys , unless I can crank up a 70lb to 75-6lbs maybe ?

Again good info on the penetration , thank you !