Hoppdoc,

I have been bowhunting for the better part of 35 years...have been fairly successful on whitetail, elk and mule deer..can only think of one time I had a game animal jump my string..longer shot on a elk back in the late '80's..she was already hit lethaly..got up on her again..she jumped at my shot..hit her in the hind quarter..still got her..but took a bit of tracking..other than that...no problems..

I do agree, it seems if they are on to you, they seem to move quicker on the close shots than on the farther away shots..my only guess is on the farther ones they might be a little more inquisitive and perhaps the sound is not as loud to them..I do believe they can hear the arrow...have had arrows go past myself at a little distance when shooting with friends...if the human ear can hear them..the animals can with much greater ease...

Lately have been using an expandable called the "steelhead" in 100 gr..flies awesome and is very lethal...some friends did a penetration test last winter--they work at one of the local archery shops..the Steelhead outpenetrated all the expandables tested as well as most of the fixed...They say if you bow is tuned correctly you should be able to shoot any broadhead..I have shot most but have never experienced the accuracy I am getting with these...

Ripp