Naki--- Great post. And 9threeXfifty I very much appreciated your post as well...

But the thing is---000 just bounce off game, anything shot with a shotgun just bounces off big game, didn't you know that? Only bullets work. Only Magnum bullets actually! The very idea that thousands of animals have been taken in India and elsewhere with shotgun is crazy talk! Shotguns do not work. They are only for little bitty birds............

Of course, I am being facetious... I love shotguns.
The thing is so many 'hunters' brought up on Gun Digest and other shooting mags actually believe the magnum and other high powered bullets are the ONLY way to kill big game. Period.

It is false of course. But our SUV culture also believes a car is no longer suitable for winter driving... an absurdity of course, and I can say that during the snow storm last week I drove past 11 vehicles that had spun off the road and some were laying in fields with their shiny sides down, while I was merrily and confidently driving past all of them in my little car... and indeed everyone of them was an SUV!!!

000 buck shot and yes even smaller like #4 Buck can kill.

Not a 200-300 yard round of course.

000 buck can be a deadly offering. I like the 410 3 inch loads because they pack five pellets in a line and yes they nearly fill up the tube at 36 caliber, ergo, I find the 410 000 buck provides a smaller, tighter pattern compared to the 12 gauge 000.

I have 000 in 410 and 12 gauge on my bedstand because next to the bedstand are the shotguns that accept those shells. Last night I walked out the porch in the pitch blackness to call my house cats in, when in front of me and I would estimate at about 40 yards I heard a very deep growl, snarl... of a large cat.... The hair on the back of my neck stood up... I carried my pump 12 gauge shotgun with slug, 000, slug, 000, the rest of the evening. ...Even though shotguns don't work on big game, can't you read?! bahaha