Didn't realize old 10 gauge loads were as light as they are-very different from the modern 3 1/2" magnum goose/turkey load we know today. I have a H&R 10 gauge with 36" barrel, does its job very well on geese, but the 3 3/4 dram ,1 1/4 ounce shot load mentioned above for 10 gauge is very similar to a current pheasant load offered by Federal-in 12 gauge.