Thanks I will be loading round balls and I wanted to be able ot get the ball high to the right place to crimp. I ordered some over powder cards and some felt wads and some shot cups that I will cut the fingers off and use the cup on the bottom to keep the ball centered in the barrlss. I will be starting with .748 balls they are a bit small and shoud center in the bore with the cup up and ball in the cup if not I will have th go with a bigger ball. Tom N