...yes, Bismuth was one of the delaying strategies I employed to forestall the fatefull day of having to use steel. Works wonderfully well, but the supply of shells made locally in Australia by Winchester using shot acquired before Eley-Hawk bought the licence has dried up. I am conserving my remaining stocks to shoot in my English guns, since the Eley-Hawk loads sell for AUD65.00 per box of 25 here! I understand that the local Remington agents will be bringing in their Hevi-shot for our 2005 season, and I was wondering what the North American experience with it was. My understanding is that it has phenomenal penetration and patterns tighter than steel - best of both worlds? - not counting the price!