do they still fire indescriminately when you take them off safe???

I just don't have that worry with my mausers... and when I say "mausers" I MEAN "Mausers" not M70s, M77s, 550s... we're talking oberndorf here...

as I said... if a rem 700 can jam-up on a hard-stroked 25-06, I don't want to be near it in a big-bore.