Have you looked closely at the workmanship of the Winchester rifles??---pos comes to mind--their quality sucked in the later years especially--while I agree their actions are good--you will need to spend some extra cash to get it where you want it..IMHO...

conversly, those I know that have bought the new Kimbers are very satisfied--I know, the purists will have opinions that they are not perfect--my response is neither are the $6000 customs...

Ripp