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Not that big friend--A great name though- It is the 8GA From Hell, a real cartridge. 4.3 inch long brass case. 8 ga shorter plastic case, plan on in same chamber. The brass kiln gun case isn't as long as mine. Where do you find the rare 8 ga brass kiln gun cases. Looking now for guns or actions and barrels. I make it from 20mm Suzy brass(20mm Hispano Suiza), by putting on a 8ga size rim and reshaping like we did 12GA FH....Ed |