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The 45-70 loaded up in a modern rifle is not the old mild mannered thumper it used to be. My 45-70 Chapuis double rifle is regulated to shoot a 400 grain bullet at 1800 fps. The rifle weighs 8 pounds, points fast, and shoots accurately. Within 100 to 150 yards it is adequate for any soft skinned, non dangerous game on earth. It is not and will never be a stopping rifle. Big tough animals require a cartridge powerfull enough to kill them quickly and humanely. Dave |