Well I called D'Arcy Echols. I had a nice visit with him. He said he is currently building 2 rifles in 505 Gibbs. The foundation for these rifles is the Hartmann and Weiss action. He has never built a 505 gibbs before these two. He said he has took part in restoring original 505 gibb's rifles.

D'Arcy Echols,said there is a 3 year waiting list..........Wow, he must be damn good.

I know quality usually comes with a price, but waiting 3 years is a long time to wait.

He did suggest Gene Simmillon if I wanted it quicker.