I'm sorry I forgot to say what gun he was using it a new 45-70 Handi SB2.Barnes make the Triple Shock in the 45-70 bullet for '07 Mid-South has the 250's for $16.24 for 20 and the 300's for $17.10.Midway has them to only for a bit more $$.These bullets are very cool looking,but I don't know how they would perform tho.Dave