On the 600 O.K., it looks like they are having trouble with the woodleigh softs at the higher speeds of 2200 and 2400 ft/sec. The bullets are basically getting disentegrated at that speed. A new bullet, solid copper is being tested this month. Ed is still having a small problem with the spring follower. Hopefully this will be taken sare of in a couple of more weeks. The first set of new spring followers that came in were too strong, so they are working on something in between. By the way, there is no way I would want to get in an arms race with Tom. We are not in the same financial ballpark. But...I do like alot of the big stuff that he has. He has alot of really nice guns, more power to him. He has also been on alot of very good hunts all over the world. My hat is off to him.