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Good news-First tested 87 levergun. Using Rocky Mtn cases cut back.Cut case back to length that feeds from magazine, 2.45 in. That is about max length of any loaded and crimped 2.75 case.Got 600gr to 1700 with 20 in barrel.120 gr of RE-7.No squib loads. Cases eject good, expanded a little ahead of base .003, resize ok.Now the second good news. Seeing as how these non traditional powders used in shotgun didn't expand the turned cases a lot( in our cases made from bmg brass it took over 10 loads to expand bases enough to need sizing)............ I figured time to check plastic cases. Plastic cases took the same load as turned brass in the NEF.And 100 gr RE-7 in 1887 and we are keeping it down in original barreled 1887 due to plastic cases expanding just ahead of the rim in two spots due to extractor cutouts. New barrel will solve that as we will make cutouts different. Up to 140 gr RE-7 in NEF. Tested Fed,Win,Rem, highbase, lowbase, etc. Lowbase extracts easiest. You who want to get the power that NEF and 1887 are able to deliver use good plastic cases as a way to get started with 600 gr slugs.You don't need heatreated for those speeds just hard cast from wheel wts.. Win AA 2 & 3/4 best for 1887. It is lowbase and easiest to resize. To get potential(extra 200 fps) it needs a long barrel.They made long barrels in original. I used federal 3 inch case in Nef.By the way modern plastic cases have steel bases with copper plating so they are strong. I tried one of the fast shotgun powders, that previously expanded the brass turned case to much, in plastic cases in NEF and at 50 gr case was sticking and had expanded quite a bit, but same case with 140gr RE-7 popped out easy, and resized easy.Ed |