Bigdog , if you come down to our Camp Cooley DRSS (DRSS: Dopuble Rifle Shooter's Society) get together in August, Steve will be there, in person. Go on the AR link 500grains gave you, and ask 700nitro about the DRSS hunt, he has the info, if you are interested! There will be about twenty double rifle shooter in attendance, all with two or three doubles of different calibers. We will be doing a lot of shooting, and shooting the sh&t, and shooting some wild Boar. Exotic are also available up to Eland, if you'd like to blood your new rifle!. I understand Steve killed an elephant with it!