I saw this post and couldnt resist after having a doozy of a thread on the DG forum of this site.

Anyways all of hte info was basically the same (only politer

Here people readily agreed to the point I was trying to make on the DG forum. That the 45-70 will kill DG and is a bare min to do so with. And if you have a better round i.e. 458, 500NE, etc. it would be a better choice. Gosh why couldnt it have been easier for me?