Yes, the winters are very long up here and for the most part I agree with you!!!! I too do not the stubby actions but this would give the poor folks a rifle about as long as a double rifle but at far less cost. In reality I am not a short mag fan either and this is the first one that has intrigued me. The case will however hold 69 grains of IMR 3031 when filled to the base of the shoulder.