I should clarify that when I mentioned OLD BELL cases these are actually NEW unfired fully formed cases but are OLD STOCK from the 80's with all capital letters for BELL on the headstamp.

I did consider at one stage grinding some off the bottom of the FL die but machined up another die instead and it works fine.

I just found it dissapointing that a well known die manufacturer who charges big money for this type of die set, is incapable of producing a FL die that puts the shoulder in the correct place on the case.