OK Griz, I re-read the posts on this thread, and buggerit, mate, you DO have some funny ideas! Your flatly stated 'facts' on calibre suitability, velocity vs meat destruction, and key-holing are cases in point.

Another couple: it is probably considered 'cowardly' by most posters here to flame someone by PM. If there is an issue with someone's post, it should be challenged in open forum where the validity or veracity is open to peer review. This helps everyone learn, and helps in assessing whose opinions or experiences are likely to be more credible.

Also, your assessment of the financial resources of other forum-members here may help you to justify a rift between their opinions and yours, but I can assure you that no such division exists. I for one have never hunted beyond Aust/NZ/PNG, and have never been able to afford a paid hunt in my life. While others here may, I feel sure that they have made personal sacrifices in order to do so and probably don't appreciate the snob inference.

This is a public forum, with a great many knowledgeable contributors, most of whom are here to learn more if they can. Nevertheless, you must expect your posts to be challenged if they can't be substantiated. That's how forums work.

Just lighten up a bit Griz, and you will find there is much to be gained by continued participation in NitroExpress.com, easily the best shooting forum on the internet!