All of these theoretical contributions are very nice, but I would prefer something practical from hunters who have loaded and used such cartridges for hunting. Unfortunately, such contributions are missing and various considerations about theoretical load data do not get us anywhere. For years I have missed anyone saying on a Forum that they have shot big game with such cartridges. For that I read posts from people trying to explain to me how good this cartridges could be with various loads that they have read from various books. Keep on having fun.