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Mike378 I agree. Most people couldn't shoot a rifle to it's potential anyway so they would never know if it is a 1 x MOA rifle. I am a reasonable to good shot off hand and OK off the bench but even though I know some of my guns are MOA Rifles (Jeffrey 375, WR 318, Win 300WSM), I can't consistently shoot MOA Groups. 1 Sub MOA Group is NOT a sub MOA Rifle. And I probably shoot more rounds in a year than most and normally a lot of game (I find it easier to shoot game than targets !!!). "Once we go past a Howa or Ruger in 308 we enter toy land" I agree. All factory rifles shoot now - buyers should concentrate on what fits them best and what they like the feel of. It's all very well asking people on forums but time spent going round looking, handling, feeling and asking is time better spent. It is also better to find a gun shop that has people who use the guns and / or hunt. Just my HO. 500 Nitro |