As for PH's buttering up the client I know this happens but the bloke I was with wouldn't know the meaning of the term. He is a very direct sort of person. The sort I get on well with, no Bulldust.

Stopping and turning are very different things. The point I was making is that a good shot with a smaller calibre, that the person can shoot well, is better and more effective than a shit shot from a larger calibre.