Yes, I could say the same. Two elephant dropped instantly with brain shots froma 480 gr Woodleigh RN FMJ .450 nE. The second hit the sand so dramatically it did a sideways somersault.

That's what happens when the brain is soundly hit. And never mind the PH's comments, they get a bigger tip by buttering up the clients. No offence intended.

I am not referring to your limited experience or my limited experience, but to the comments of those who have done a fair amount of hunting of big and dangerous game, follow ups, charges etc with a .500 and above or sub 500. Most steps up once one gets to the 450, to 500 etc are significant. Per more experienced heads than mine.

"Turning" or Stopping, no real dirfference.

I would say the difference is for less than ideal shooting cconditions and less than ideal bullet placement. If the brain is hit, it collapses. Irrespective of the calibre.

It is satisfying when hunting such a dangerous beast at such close range to have them collapse soundly. I was never tempted for body shots, as I wanted them down and out, instantly.

Myself, I am happy to keep using my .450. Don't need hydros. The standard FMJs still work fine even after a hundred plus years.