NitroX
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| 05/09/21 09:53 PM |
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Re: Moving up in size
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"It's simple, any experienced DG hunter can tell you, that a 500 is far more a killer and effective than a 450 and a 416 and a 375 etc." True of a 50 cal BMG also!
No argument there and I agree that for the professional hunter the bigger boomers may be best.
But what about all their clients that shoot lesser rifles and actually kill a lot of game?
Or some odd ball caliber from another country like the USA?
Here are two of mine that have taken DG --- they are old and mostly forgotten, but their bullets still kill large and dangerous game and the game neither know nor care where the bullets came from.
Winchester 1895 .405 WCF with same performance as 450/400.
Does it?
405 Winchester Center Fire
Maximum CUP 36000 CUP
Ballistic performance
Bullet mass/type Velocity Energy 300 gr (19 g) 2,204 ft/s (672 m/s) 3,236 ft⋅lbf (4,387 J) 400 gr (26 g) 1,900 ft/s (580 m/s) 3,207 ft⋅lbf (4,348 J)
Source(s): The American Rifle Woodleigh Bullets Loading Manual
On this basis, approx 300 fps slower than a .450/400?
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Winchester 1886 .45-90 (.458 2.4) with 96% capacity of .458 Win Mag.
Shooting 450 grain bullets at 2150 fps and used by an experienced hunter took multiple buff, an ele, leopard and plains game in Africa. Plus Bison, Nilgai and many more in the USA.
Seems equivalent to a .458 Win Mag, maybe even a little more.?
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Even though it is not an English DR, in the hands of a rifleman, no game is safe!
PS The rifleman that took the ele mentioned above just took two Alaskan Grizzlies with a muzzle loader and is on his way back to Texas. We will be chasing warthogs together this winter in the Rio Grande Valley.
Use whatever you want. The comments were about a .500 compared to lesser choices.
But as for nationality of cartridges,
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May I ask what will you hunt with the 50 (500 Jeffery) caliber rifle that a .416 will not kill?
Neither of these are US, so not sure wby the angst?
I think not a single member here would be exempt from the "why have rilfe Z, seeing you already have a X, which can do it? " Ha ha.