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Quote:Quote: All true except for the last sentence. What kills big animals. Penetration and calibre width. Sectional density and adequate velocity is the key to penetration and related of course to bullet weight to the calibre size. The width of the wound channel is the other factor. And yes. the reason the 7x57 with 175 solids was a killer, the .318 WR with 250 gr solids killed many thousands of buffalo as did the 8x60's/8x57s. I don't know if 320 gr 9.3's and 350 gr .375's were available back in the day? The usual was the 300 gr for the .375. ut a 287 gr 9.3, 300 gr .375 and 400 gr .416/423/408/411 etc all have adequate sectional density. The last paragraph, no quick load can not kill a buffalo but the 10.75x68 can and has killed water buffalos. Keeping claiming otherwise is silly. Aussie owners of 10.75x68 have used them on water buffalo. Buffalo are not armour plated. I would be willing to use a 8x68S, a .300 Magnum, a .318 WR, a .350, .360, 9.3mm, .375 NE and many many other a choice for buffalo. With suitable bullet and if legal. They haven't become invinceable a hundred years later. Indeed a hell of a lot of Aussies just use their deer medium game rifles to shoot a water buffalo, a .308 or .30-06. BUT having big bores I DO CHOOSE to use them isntead. Why not? They are fun. And if the beastie decides once every ten or twenty buff to li;; you instead, they are better insurance. My next buffalos will hopefully be taken with the 10-bore and the .404. Hype and marketing MS also does not kill a buffalo. Their "invinceability" sells expensive hunts. But a good bullet in the right place does kill very well. Anyway, they are good fun to hunt, and more fun when or if they unfortunately do not drop instantly and excess fun when the run down a hill towards you. ![]() *** I have only shot two elephant, both with the .450 NE and 480 gr solids. Both were brain shot with the first shot. Other insurance shots were taken afterwards though. I do prefer something with more grunt with elephant. If I had one I would choose a .500 NE or .577 NE. Knocking one over with a less than perfect brain shot may be advanteguous. |