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Dan, In Australia with pigs, goats or roos you would wheel out those cannons you own first until you got sore then get the 270 out. ![]() But this again simply highlights that the volume shooting means efficiency is not such an issue. But what is interesting is how well you can do with 2000-2100 f/s on the flat country once you have been shooting for a day or so, you seem to get onto them. In the 458 Win (I had 3 of the M70 Push Feed super grades) I used 400 grain Speers and 70 grains of 4064, which did 2000 and also 70 grains of 3031 and our 2206 which is about the same and they did 2100 f/s By day two "the shots fired to hits ratio" never seemed much different to me than when using 270 etc. Ditto for 39-41 grains of 2205 (H4227) and 220 Hornady flat nose in 375 which is a 2100 f/s load. It is a great shame that we can't blend our shooting conditions and your gun laws. Mike |