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Dan, Out here 223 is widely used for pigs, roos and goats. Volume shootings has two spin offs. One is the economy of the ammo and also each animal is not so important. On a good property an Australian might well shoot more "deer" size animals than than the average American or European would shoot in a life time. I think the 7mm Rem is at a recoil threshold for many shooters and they notice a big difference between it and the 300 Mag. I have been on the forums since about 1998, started at AR, and one I have noticed is the 338 seems to have increased a lot. I suspect the range of light bullets could be responsible. The other thing I have noticed is that the CZ is more commonly seen on the forums in the 30/06 size calibres than before. Earlier on most CZs on the forums were 375, 416 or 458. When you shoot your deer do you use one of your big bangers or something in the 270 to 300 Mag area? Mike |