A 30-30 will kill dangerous game, Bwana Carter killed everything with a 32 Win. Special for several years before he made some bucks and promptly got a big bore....

The point is the 450 Marlin gives a Buffalo a lot more time to decide wheather he wants to kill YOU before he dies....

People that want to kill dangerous game with small arms are on an ego trip, and are playing with dynomite..I have seen the Cape Buffalo at his worst 3 times and in each case I remember thinking , I need a bigger gun! and I was using a bigger guns than the Marlin by a good deal...

Its easy to sit at the computer and kill a charging Lion or buff with a small caliber..Lions scare the liveing crap out of me, they simply make too much fuss out of a charge, they are like sitting on the rail head and a locomotive is coming blowing his whistle, and they are a blur of a yellow ball that one must shoot into the middle of......

Me, I'll take a 375, 416 or a 404 as my DGR, and I shoot lighter guns than most folks, many think I don't shoot enough gun, at times I have given them praise, but its worked so far....