Richard

Ya i think your right about the 450 Marlin being a
".458 American 2 Inch " Thay look kust the same
although i think thay may have lenghtened the case by .029 or so.

As for the 45/70 used in Africa by the gent that used Garrett ammo . ? well maybe but there have been over 100
DG type game now taken with the 45/70 in africa including African Lion and cheetta<--Spelled wrong sorry ..
(Little fast dog that looks like a cat) <- with spots

and alot of folks are taking Cape Buffalo
with the round as well.

It really must be noted that although the 45/70 would not be my number one pick on Cape Buffalo it would not bother me in the least to take one out and shoot Cape with it as long as i could use my own bullet's and loads

A good ((turn base))<-- upside down lead end at the base Guilded metal at the nose.. with a C220 <- Guilded metal jacket. in a 0.050 jacket wall thickness and a 400 grain bullet weight at@ 2000 FPS ..and i dont need a back up folks
thanks anyway been shooting Brown Bear and Couger for a very very very longggg time . but .! ya gotta have a PH .
out with you .. so i will take my buddy John Duarte
he did fair this year bagged some nice Kudo and eland
and a few other small game.

These are The ones from this years hunt ..Thats John

This one shows John in need of Jenny Crag diet program

John Duarte makes his own bullet's as well and used on this trip his 300 Win Mag with 220 grain 0.030 jacket's
all were one shot kills

any way once again i am going on about something else in another persons post on the 450 Marlin Sorry guys