| Ripp |
| (.577 member) |
| 04/05/18 10:05 PM |
Re: Head-to-head- 416-Rigby-vs-416-Remington-magnum
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I agree that anything over 2100fps with a 400gn projectile is plenty for buff & wild cattle. I have found the Woodleigh softs more reliable penetrators when impact velocity is 2100-2200fps just as they advise.
For water buffalo, scrub bulls, banteng and cape buffalo, I have used my .450 NE double, my 9.3x74R double and my .375 H&H bolt action. 480 grs, 287 grs and 300 grs respectively. About twenty beasts between them all, not a lot by some standards, biut still enough to make a showing.
All of the above work. I know from personal experience with the last water buff, there can be times when even a .450 NE does make a bloody buff flinch, when he is coming for you ... Usually they work well enough, a small amount of times the circumstances mean the bigger the better. A reason I was told by one Territorian on NE, why he no longer uses his 6.5mm Mannlicher for just that reason ...
The .404, the .416s are in the middle of the above range. No reason why they won't work well, in the right bullet in the right places. Probably the best calibre choice for bovines using a bolt action, and not in very close bush or jungle.
I too have often thought of a .404..if for nothing else, it has a cool factor as well as perhaps a bit handier rifle as stated earlier in this post..
Will not give me anything the .416's do, but, can never have too many guns...
Pulled this off of the web...
The.404 Jeffery is a large-caliber, rimless cartridge designed for large, dangerous game, such as the "Big Five" of Africa. Other names for this cartridge include.404 Jeffery Rimless, .404 Rimless Nitro Express, and 10.75× 73mm. It was created by W.J. Jeffery & Co of England based on their desire to duplicate performance of the.450/400 cartridge. There are two basically similar sets of dimensions for this case, depending on the manufacturer. The.404 Jeffery as originally loaded fired a.423" diameter bullet of either 300 gr with a muzzle velocity of 2,600 ft/s and muzzle energy of 4,500 foot-pounds force or 400 gr with a muzzle velocity of 2,125 ft/s and 4,020 foot-pounds force of energy. It is very effective on large game and is favored by many hunters of dangerous game. Performance and recoil are similar to other African dangerous game cartridges. The.404 Jeffery was popular with hunters and game wardens in Africa because it gave good performance with a manageable level of recoil. By way of comparison, the.416 Rigby and.416 Remington Magnum both fire a 400 grain.416 in bullet at 2,400 feet per second with a muzzle energy of approximately 5,000 foot-pounds force, which handily exceeds the ballistic performance of the.404 Jeffery but at the price of greater recoil and, in the case of the.416 Rigby, rifles that are significantly more expensive.