| Rule303 |
| (.450 member) |
| 03/05/18 08:01 PM |
Re: Head-to-head- 416-Rigby-vs-416-Remington-magnum
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John
Your stats on the .416 Taylor are way off the mark. My 1991 vintage Zastava actioned rifle has no trouble achieving 2400fps with the 410gn Woodleigh bullet. I have fired several hundred at my favourite load of 2360fps using AR2206H (H4895 in the US). I also get 2250fps with the 450gn bullet using AR2208 (Varget). My Winchester cases (.458W) have been fired at more than five times using these loads.... I neck size for three loadings & only use once fired cases when chasing big stuff.
I know the .416 Remington is a bit better when handloaded but it is a long way from the Rigby which easily achieves 2600fps with the 410gn bullet if you can hang on to it!!
My rifle is 8.5lbs without a scope & magnaported, I have no trouble catching up to fleeing pigs with this outfit... I don't feel real comfortable with the notion of chasing dangerous game with a 10lb bolt gun. I think Szihn is on the money with his comments!
Rule 303 am interested in your experiences with the Hydro, especially the extra length... I am about to load some for Water Buff, I see they are slightly longer than the 450gn softs I use & my commercial action feeds up to COL 2.400".
Col the Hydro is way better then a solid, when a solid is required. However when a soft nose is required not as good as the soft but better than a standard solid. Sort of a cross between the 2.
They are a bore rider with the bands being bands not a cut into the shank as some monometals so I seat them out so the first band is just shy of the lands, mag length permitting. The shank still protrudes a fair bit into the case. If you go to the Woodleigh web sight they list the length of the projectiles.
The newer Hydros have the green cap to improve feeding and are longer with the first band further forward, as such, they will sit deeper into the case. I had my CZ550 feed rails and ramp altered so the exposed tip Hydros functioned well. You should have no problem with them feeding now as they are capped.
I did load some 225grain 358Hydros into my Whelen but did not record the overall length. Was going to give you an idea of how they fit into a 30-06 length action. You might be able to use a faster powder?
As a mate that has shot Waterbuff with them in a 9.3X62 said. Just load up with Hydro's and go shoot them.
Steve, forget about the 416 Ruger, look at the 338 Norma magnum and neck up to 416. This and their 300 Norma mag- not 308 Norma mag- are use a shortened 416Rigby case. Not as easy for gunsmithing but will handle the the longer projectiles without losing velocity or jacking up pressures.