Mike,

I acknowledge what you have said. Not enough info to put the shooter into a slot.

I do point out that his initial inquiry was about Weatherby and comparing that brand to Dakota, Winchester, and Remington.

Weatherby doesn't make a .45/70, and I don't think he is talking about a .375 Win Big Bore lever gun.

But as you have said, there is a world of difference between the capabilities of a .375 H&H and a .458 Win Mag or similar .45 bore. The .375 will really reach out and touch someone, and the .45 is for up close and personal.

The .416 is in between and might do both. I don't say that with authority. I've never owned one and have only shot one a few times.

By the way, the 235 gr. Speer in a .375 H&H is one heck of a good combo. That bullet is extremely accurate. You can get right at 3000 fps. It flies with almost identical trajectory as a 180 grain spitzer in a .30-06, and it arrives with authority.

In 1987 I killed a 6x6 elk with just that combination in a M70 Win at a measured 330 yards. The elk was facing me at an oblique angle. The bullet entered the right front shoulder just aft of the brisket, broke the shoulder joint, went through the heart, lungs, guts, etc. and lodged under the skin right in front of the left ham. Penetrated 5 feet of bull elk, and the bullet now weighs 191 grains - a retention of over 81%.

Here's a look at it:

It's a "Hot-Cor" bullet (their version of "bonded core").

A little off topic, I admit, but your mention of that caliber and bullet prompted my trip down memory lane.

Disclaimer: I don't own stock in or work for Speer. I just shoot some of their bullets from time to time.

Best regards,
Curl